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Dirty Bomb downtown??


By Sarcastic Sam - Jan 19, 2005, 4:15 PM
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Just heard on the radio that FBI is searching for a dirty bomb in Boston...supposedly another FBI office had a lead that someone was trying to detonate a DB in Boston...hmmm should I ask to go home early?

WTF is up with that?
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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Ron Newman - Jan 19, 2005, 4:18 PM
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Probably just Bechtel trying out a new way to plug Big Dig leaks.

(nothing on boston.com or necn.com about it)

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By eeka - Jan 19, 2005, 4:23 PM
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google (which pulls up a goodly amount of news sources from all over the world) has nothing

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By adamg - Jan 19, 2005, 4:24 PM
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Ron,

For stuff like this, you gotta go to the source: thebostonchannel.com!

MEMA Placed on Standby Status

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By adamg - Jan 19, 2005, 4:28 PM
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Boston terror threat probed

Federal and state authorities are investigating a nuclear terrorist threat against Boston after a man calling from Mexico told California police that he smuggled two Iraqis and four Chinese over the border, the Boston Herald has learned.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Ron Newman - Jan 19, 2005, 4:28 PM
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There have been reports that the FBI office in Boston received a call from an FBI office in California warning officials about a suspicious person that may be in the area,


but I'm downtown every weekday. What's so special about today?

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Sarcastic Sam - Jan 19, 2005, 4:33 PM
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google (which pulls up a goodly amount of news sources from all over the world) has nothing


It now has a link to channel 5's website showing a tiny bit of info..plus the Herald's page has a story on a Boston terror threat...I think it's related.
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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Sarcastic Sam - Jan 19, 2005, 4:38 PM
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Also a blurb on NECN website..not much detail..they're looking for someone on the Watch List
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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Ron Newman - Jan 19, 2005, 4:39 PM
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Whitey Bulger, perhaps?

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By Frankie - Jan 19, 2005, 4:40 PM
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KA- BOOM

*koff koff*

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Neal - Jan 19, 2005, 4:42 PM
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I'll get the marshmallows!

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Sarcastic Sam - Jan 19, 2005, 4:43 PM
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boston.com finally posts something about it....scooped by the Herald! tsk tsk tsk.
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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By adamg - Jan 19, 2005, 4:44 PM
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bostonherald.com is now, for all intents and purposes, unreachable. Somebody's really gotta explain the concept of "server farm" to them ...

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Comm. Ave - Jan 19, 2005, 4:44 PM
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This makes more sense:


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The source said there is speculation the caller may have been ripped off by illegal immigrants he helped over the border and is now trying to exact revenge.


I know there's a significant number of Chinese Muslims, but they have there hands full in China.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Ron Newman - Jan 19, 2005, 4:57 PM
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D'ya think this will maybe push tomorrow's Metro story off the Herald front page?

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By Buzzy_Flatus - Jan 19, 2005, 5:52 PM
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D'ya think this will maybe push tomorrow's Metro story off the Herald front page?

Maybe, but only if they actually detonate a nuke.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By 4dayfriend - Jan 20, 2005, 7:58 AM
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Well as long as the ice at Fleet Centre is still playable, a couple of restaurants are still serving baked scrod and the Radisson on Stuart St. is still standing come March 18th I'll still be wending my way over to your wondrous city from Manchester, England.
Now where'd I put that geiger counter....Wink

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Re: FleetCenter

By Ron Newman - Jan 20, 2005, 8:16 AM
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Well as long as the ice at Fleet Centre is still playable


I hope you know that there will most likely be no Bruins season this year because of a labor dispute. We'll still have the Beanpot tournament, but that's in February.

(Or maybe you're here for the Hockey East championship, in which case, never mind.)

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By so - Jan 20, 2005, 9:05 AM
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I saw 4 Chinese people on the bus today..they didn't look at each other or interact with each other, but I think it was a plan to no associate with one another...should I call the authorities?

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By Frankie - Jan 20, 2005, 9:10 AM
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I saw 4 Chinese people on the bus today..they didn't look at each other or interact with each other, but I think it was a plan to no associate with one another...should I call the authorities?


Dear God - yes.

Yellow people on the bus pretending not to associate (though - how do they explain being on the bus at the same time?)

Did you feel violated?

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By adamg - Jan 20, 2005, 9:15 AM
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Depends. Were there also two Iraqi men on the bus?

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By Ron Newman - Jan 20, 2005, 9:20 AM
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I'd worry more about tularemia....

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By Denise - Jan 20, 2005, 9:31 AM
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Wink fu;nny!

maybe they didn't know each other.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Ron Newman - Jan 20, 2005, 9:36 AM
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Last I heard it was supposed to be two Chinese men and two Chinese women, and two Iraqis of undetermined gender.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By adamg - Jan 20, 2005, 10:01 AM
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Speaking of which, I think my favorite part of today's tularemia story was:

But Moore acknowledged that researchers in the lab had violated policies requiring them to work with tularemia inside an enclosed box, called a hood, that sends air through sophisticated filters.

Instead, the tularemia samples were sometimes worked with in the open, in part because the enclosed research boxes were sometimes filled with material that should not have been kept there, Moore said.


In other words, people who will shortly be bringing ebola, anthrax and other killers into the South End are slobs. "Damn, Jim, where'd you put those virus vials?!?"

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By so - Jan 20, 2005, 10:35 AM
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From BU:

We want to give you some additional information about a story that ran in today's Boston Globe. As the Globe reported, three Boston University Medical Center research laboratory employees were infected last year while working with tularemia bacteria (F. tularensis). All three employees have fully recovered. The laboratory has been decontaminated. BUMC officials notified the Massachusetts Department of Public Health (MDPH) and the Boston Public Health Commission (BPHC) immediately upon learning of the workers' exposure. Those agencies and BUMC agreed that the incident did not represent a risk to the community or the public because tularemia is not transmitted from person to person and a public statement about the incident was not necessary.

The BPHC and MDPH began an investigation into the tularemia cases in conjunction with the Centers for Disease Control. BUMC cooperated fully with this investigation and conducted its own review of the incident led by the chairman of the medical center's Institutional Biosafety Committee. At the time of the workers exposure, it was believed that the strain of tularemia being studied in the laboratory was a vaccine strain, which does not cause illness. This investigation has found that the tularemia bacteria being studied by the infected workers included a virulent strain of tularemia, in addition to the vaccine strain. The investigations are still seeking to determine when and how this mixed tularemia strain came into the laboratory. At this stage of the investigations, it is believed that, while BUMC requested a vaccine strain of tularemia, a mixed strain was received.

Tularemia, also known as "rabbit fever," is a bacterial disease, which can affect both animals and humans. Exposure commonly comes from handling of infected animals or the bite of infected ticks or deer flies. Researchers in the laboratory where the incident occurred are working to develop a vaccine against the disease using a vaccine strain of tularemia.

BUMC will be enhancing laboratory training and procedures. Dr. Thomas Moore, Acting Provost, is leading this effort which will include enhance safety training for all researchers and unannounced safety inspections of all laboratories on our campus.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By so - Jan 20, 2005, 10:38 AM
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the bus driver was **possibly** Iraqi, and I saw another guy walking in Copley Sq...it's possible he'd just gotten off the bus.

With Chinese New Year in less than 2 weeks away, there are bound to be whole groups of Chinese people walking together in Boston...

it is any coincidence that today in inauguration day?

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By so - Jan 20, 2005, 10:39 AM
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"maybe they didn't know each other"

duh.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By Denise - Jan 20, 2005, 10:42 AM
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sonia what's your beef? why don't you just say it?.. you love to hound me and be a b**ch about it. carry on.. im listening...

I knew you were being facetious. OK? i thought it was funny for chris sakes. Then stated the obvious.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By adamg - Jan 20, 2005, 11:43 AM
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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By so - Jan 20, 2005, 11:47 AM
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http://www.ibiblio.org/Dave/Dr-Fun/df200010/df20001002.jpg

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Ron Newman - Jan 20, 2005, 12:35 PM
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I saw some silly WANTED posters, with pictures of four Chinese people, taped up on the Green Line level of Park Street Station.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By Denise - Jan 20, 2005, 1:00 PM
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http://www.ibiblio.org/Dave/Dr-Fun/df200010/df20001002.jpg


well you oughta know..


still haven't answered my question.. nice passive-aggressive behavior you display there. .. bait then act as though the other person's got the problem. duh

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By eeka - Jan 20, 2005, 1:22 PM
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Dude. Both of you. Jesus H Christ.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By so - Jan 20, 2005, 1:23 PM
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geez louise..chill
you get consistantly hysterical.

"bait then act as though the other person's got the problem"
yeah, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
is that why you keep responding & responding & responding ad nauseum to me? ie: you've responded to me 4 times today, including posts that have been up for sometime.

you get your crow feathers ruffled and then post that I am a b***ch and stupid stuff like that.

know what?

whatev'

I think you're stupid and reactive, so nothing you pose to me or say to me bothers me in the slightest...you have an inferiority complex or something, 'member when you wrote "there she goes thinking she's better than me again". You're confusing superiority with disinterest. Feel free to not respond to me...it's not something you NEED do do, although you do seem compelled to...

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Ron Newman - Jan 20, 2005, 1:24 PM
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Dude. Both of you. Jesus H Christ.

if that means "chill", then I agree...

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By Denise - Jan 20, 2005, 1:28 PM
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stupid and reactive to the childish "duh" .. hmm.. then you must also be as stupid and reactive to post it in the first place.

you didn't even need to post that to my response to you in the first place then now did you?

Reactive? no i just defend myself when insulted. you don't like it then keep shut w/ your duh shit in the first place.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By eeka - Jan 20, 2005, 1:28 PM
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Um, well, it's kind of an all-purpose low-grade cussword. Like "geez" only a little more.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By eeka - Jan 20, 2005, 1:29 PM
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Can both of you guys stop being stupid and reactive?

;o)

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By Denise - Jan 20, 2005, 1:29 PM
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you've responded to me 4 times today, including posts that have been up for sometime


didn't know there was a problem w/ that. is there sonia? because i was having computer trouble for some days..not being able to pull up some topics until today it's seems ridiculous to you?
hey don't break your arm pattin' yourself on the back for how smart you think you are.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By Denise - Jan 20, 2005, 1:31 PM
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Thank you eeka. it's on her wash also.

ALSO key word meaning I accept it for myself too, before certain of this forum say otherwise.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Sparky - Jan 20, 2005, 4:05 PM
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Can both of you guys stop being stupid and reactive?

;o)

I don't think Denise is stupid or reactive.

Sonia is just low rent that's all, she thinks Howard Stern is enlightening, now that's stupid.


November 1978 ~ Democrats drinking the Kool-Aid ~ November 2008

"Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem"

"Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Sarah"

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By so - Jan 20, 2005, 4:31 PM
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"she thinks Howard Stern is enlightening"

exactly what I said, huh?


"Sonia is just low rent that's all"
considering the source, I'm so not offended.

it is stupid and reactive to get bent when someone says "duh" when the obvious is pointed out.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Sparky - Jan 20, 2005, 4:43 PM
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"Sonia is just low rent that's all"
considering the source, I'm so not offended.


Yeah but it's still true.


November 1978 ~ Democrats drinking the Kool-Aid ~ November 2008

"Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem"

"Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Sarah"

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By eeka - Jan 20, 2005, 7:32 PM
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Seriously guys. Did you guys not tease people on the school bus enough or something?

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Sparky - Jan 20, 2005, 7:41 PM
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Seriously guys. Did you guys not tease people on the school bus enough or something?


Who's teasing?


November 1978 ~ Democrats drinking the Kool-Aid ~ November 2008

"Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem"

"Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Sarah"

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Harry Burton - Jan 20, 2005, 8:42 PM
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you've responded to me 4 times today, including posts that have been up for sometime


didn't know there was a problem w/ that. is there sonia? because i was having computer trouble for some days..not being able to pull up some topics until today it's seems ridiculous to you?
hey don't break your arm pattin' yourself on the back for how smart you think you are.


Alright...CAT FIGHT!

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Ron Newman - Jan 20, 2005, 9:14 PM
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George W. Bush

Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of All Who Threaten It.


he's going to pursue himself? Would be interesting to watch if it wasn't so scary.


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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By Denise - Jan 21, 2005, 8:49 AM
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Listen, my point is, if sonia thinks she can go around pushing someone's buttons w/ her equally childish crap, she can't also think that no one is going to respond to it. That's not how it works anywhere on this planet.

If she gets all bent out of shape because I responded to her oh my God, 4 times yesterday then that's her hang up. We don't agree on many things. I feel she tries to oust my opinions as not up to date, and I personally don't care. But I have no problem restating my opinion. And I will always do so.

I never said that she was stupid because she holds vastly diff. opinions than I do on many topics. I also never said she was stupid for running around the forum insulting ppl with her passive-aggressive button pushing.
She can follow her own advice if she feels I should freely not respond to her.

"Duh" was uncalled for. I thought her post was funny and that was all.
She wants to call people stupid and reactive, well it's gonna come w/ the territory when she wants to be b****y. I don't have to fall to my knees because I don't agree w/ her. Her posts, in response to mine, are NOT the divine word. I know someone who uses her tactics in conversation as well, and this person is very exasperating and many people who know this woman are completely annoyed by her when she crys "NO FAIR" when someone else calls her on her attitude.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By triquetra - Jan 21, 2005, 9:59 AM
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I move that we start two separate threads; one for Sonia and Denise and one for me, eeka, Sparky, and jhr, so that we all don't keep hijacking other people's perfectly good threads.

Who's with me?
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Luceo non uro

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By eeka - Jan 21, 2005, 10:30 AM
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Yeah, let's start a sandbox or something. If someone (ANYONE) wants to go beyond polite reasonable arguments and take it to personal attacks, then we can move it in there!

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By Denise - Jan 21, 2005, 10:37 AM
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Should be called SANDBOX or LET'S TAKE THIS OUTSIDE forum! Cool

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By eeka - Jan 21, 2005, 10:44 AM
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HEEEEEEE yes.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By so - Jan 21, 2005, 11:57 AM
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geez.
thanks.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By so - Jan 21, 2005, 1:25 PM
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A mysterious man who told authorities that four Chinese nationals and two Iraqis were planning a nuclear attack on Boston also named a man known to the DEA, supporting investigators' suspicions that the caller was using the terrorist threat for his own gain.

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=64589

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By adamg - Jan 21, 2005, 1:27 PM
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If this is true, then who's the bright brain at the FBI or (fill in the agency name) who dropped a dime to the Herald? He/she deserves to be sent upstairs without dinner - for the next 20 years.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Fred Sennott - Jan 21, 2005, 9:13 PM
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Actually I heard it on TV before the Herald printed it.The story was a day old before the Herald printed it.
Trust in God and sin not.Don't blame me I'm like Sparky I voted for Sarah to.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By Buzzy_Flatus - Jan 22, 2005, 12:24 AM
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Coulda maybe been the same guy who tipped the FBI in the first place also tipped the press, to blow the whole thing out into the open?

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By adamg - Jan 22, 2005, 10:07 AM
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Somehow, I don't think so, because I can't picture a reporter taking the call seriously: "Hi, I'm calling from San Diego, and I just smuggled some Chinese and some Iraqis across the border so they can blow up Boston." But a call from somebody at the FBI?

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By Buzzy_Flatus - Jan 22, 2005, 11:57 AM
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Somehow, I don't think so, because I can't picture a reporter taking the call seriously: "Hi, I'm calling from San Diego, and I just smuggled some Chinese and some Iraqis across the border so they can blow up Boston." But a call from somebody at the FBI?


First you tip John Jones at the FBI, then, when you realize they're keeping it reasonably quiet and that it hasn't blown up in the press the way you want, you tip, say, 4 newspapers saying "Hey, why don'tcha call John Jones at the FBI and ask how the manhunt for those four Chinese is going." You give the newspapers just enough detail that when they call the FBI, Jones realizes there's been a major leak and that the FBI needs to go public.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Sparky - Jan 22, 2005, 1:17 PM
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First you tip John Jones at the FBI, then, when you realize they're keeping it reasonably quiet and that it hasn't blown up in the press the way you want, you tip, say, 4 newspapers saying "Hey, why don'tcha call John Jones at the FBI and ask how the manhunt for those four Chinese is going." You give the newspapers just enough detail that when they call the FBI, Jones realizes there's been a major leak and that the FBI needs to go public.


And here's me thinking it was Mumbles Menino trying to gain publicity with his enormous source.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Fred Sennott - Jan 22, 2005, 8:06 PM
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Now we hear that one of the women has been in custody for over two months,and has no connectionb to terrorists.It turns out she was looking for a job.
Trust in God and sin not.Don't blame me I'm like Sparky I voted for Sarah to.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Comm. Ave - Jan 22, 2005, 9:01 PM
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In Reply To
If this is true, then who's the bright brain at the FBI or (fill in the agency name) who dropped a dime to the Herald? He/she deserves to be sent upstairs without dinner - for the next 20 years.


I am pretty sure it showed up on Drudge first.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By adamg - Jan 22, 2005, 10:37 PM
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Why are the Boston papers sitting on this explosive news:

Law-enforcement agencies of Massachusetts are looking for a group of Chinese chemists suspected of preparing a terrorist act in the USA. A well-known astrologist, Hassan Charni, who predicted Yasser Arafat's death, said that terrorists would attempt to kill President Bush in 2005. Charni became world famous when he predicted Princess Diana's death.

http://english.pravda.ru/world/20/91/368/14855_usa.html

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Ron Newman - Jan 25, 2005, 5:51 PM
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FBI rules out Boston terror threat

Everyone who spread this panic last week should hang his head in shame.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Fred Sennott - Jan 25, 2005, 9:01 PM
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I hope you are including Mayor Tommy in that crowd?
Trust in God and sin not.Don't blame me I'm like Sparky I voted for Sarah to.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Sparky - Jan 25, 2005, 9:08 PM
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I hope you are including Mayor Tommy in that crowd?


TOP OF THE ENORMOUS LIST!


November 1978 ~ Democrats drinking the Kool-Aid ~ November 2008

"Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem"

"Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Sarah"

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By adamg - Jan 25, 2005, 9:17 PM
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And what, exactly, would you have had him do?

The Herald, Globe and Channel 5 Web sites were all reporting the story, everybody was talking about it (well, they certainly were in my offfice, and I know you guys were talking about it here) and you have the mayor, what, just ignore the issue? Especially after the governor (oh, but he's a Republican, so he must know what he's doing) went live to announce he was SKIPPING THE FRICKIN' INAUGURATION to fly back to Massachusetts just in case something happened?

And then what did Menino actually SAY? Do you remember? He said nobody had any proof there really were Four Chinese Nationals (or Nationalists or whatever) heading our way and that people should just go about their business.

Yeah, I realize that's treason talk there, but hey, I once again repeat my challenge: If you dislike Menino so much, move to Boston and vote against him. He's up for re-election this fall.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Sparky - Jan 25, 2005, 9:19 PM
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Yeah, I realize that's treason talk there, but hey, I once again repeat my challenge: If you dislike Menino so much, move to Boston and vote against him. He's up for re-election this fall.


He's doing a shitty job removing snow too!


November 1978 ~ Democrats drinking the Kool-Aid ~ November 2008

"Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem"

"Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Sarah"

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Ron Newman - Jan 25, 2005, 10:52 PM
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And what, exactly, would you have had [Menino] do?



Publicly announce that the media are irresponsibly scaring the citizens in order to sell newspapers or increase television ratings, and ask the citizens to ignore the bogus 'threat' and go about their business as if it had never happened.

(I'd give the same answer if this question was asked about Romney.)

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By Denise - Jan 26, 2005, 9:19 AM
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Everyone who spread this panic last week should hang his head in shame.


.. and the FBI not even knowing they had one of the women already in custody for reasons UNRELATED to any terrorist plot! Brilliant.

How'd they compile that list? and how did they equate her name to a terrorist plot? Where are they getting their information? Are they just pulling names out of a hat? Or did their coyote make the whole thing up to save his a**

This is reminds me of something I had seen on the news around the time of 9/11. The U.S. named a highjacker, but apparently their highjacker was alive, well and working at his job in Pakistan.....

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Ron Newman - Jan 26, 2005, 9:23 AM
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Or did their coyote make the whole thing up to save his a**


Sure looks that way:

FBI finds terror threat was fabricated


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One member of Boston's Anti-Terrorism Advisory Committee, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said investigators now believe that Jose Ernesto Beltran Quinonez, the alleged tipster, made up the threat in some sort of dispute over money in a smuggling operation he was involved in.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Fred Sennott - Jan 26, 2005, 9:01 PM
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If he acted as you suggest he would have left himself open tom critcism from all the Monday Morning Quarterbacks out there,like yourself.He was damned if he did and damned if he didn't.He took a course that he thought would make him look good.He did overplay the situation,just like he does the LNG tankers.Now if he would only forget them and look at the Gasoline Tankers and Barges that are coming into Boston even more often and under minor surveillance and an open target for terrorists.Or the trucks hauling fuel all over the city,mostly in sngle hulled vessels and tankers.With no body paying any attentionto them or the terminals where they are stored.
Trust in God and sin not.Don't blame me I'm like Sparky I voted for Sarah to.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By Frankie - Jan 26, 2005, 11:30 PM
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....and look at the Gasoline Tankers and Barges that are coming into Boston even more often and under minor surveillance and an open target for terrorists.Or the trucks hauling fuel all over the city,mostly in sngle hulled vessels and tankers.With no body paying any attentionto them or the terminals where they are stored.


Bad for business, Freddy. Haliburton won't stand for it.

"Trust in Fred and live a lie."

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Fred Sennott - Jan 27, 2005, 9:31 PM
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No Mayor Tommy has his blinders on some one told him the LNGs were a trarget and he can't see the others.There is little or no surveillance on the gas and oil tankers coming into the port and even less at the terminals where they store the stuff and its far more volatile than LNG.
Trust in God and sin not.Don't blame me I'm like Sparky I voted for Sarah to.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By crayonmoonbeam - Jan 28, 2005, 7:59 AM
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If someone (ANYONE) wants to go beyond polite reasonable arguments and take it to personal attacks, then we can move it in there!


I think you should take your own advice. It is not a polite, reasonable argument when you engage with blockheads for page after page.


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PATS!

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By crayonmoonbeam - Jan 28, 2005, 8:03 AM
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ask the citizens to ignore the bogus 'threat' and go about their business as if it had never happened.


He should do that now, but if he hadn't addressed the news stories when they were first out, he would have been negligent. I don't think he did anything wrong. It's not right to have him included with the media leaks. Fred and Sparky are just trying for knee-jerk reactions. They're obviously just trying to start arguments.


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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By crayonmoonbeam - Jan 28, 2005, 8:08 AM
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He's doing a shitty job removing snow too!


I don't think so. How would you suggest he do it differently?


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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By Funny Lookin' - Jan 28, 2005, 10:19 AM
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He's doing a shitty job removing snow too!


Looks pretty good to me; I've been in the downtown neighborhoods and Dorchester; haven't seen much of the rest of the city since the last snow.



Nothing of interest here. Move along

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By AAstrojet - Jan 28, 2005, 2:46 PM
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If there is another incident similar to the recent Dirty Bomb scare, I will not put one ounce of stock or credability into anything coming from the Mayor or his office. At his press conference regarding the DB, he stated there was no truth to the dirty bomb or any threat to LNG tankers. He stated the next LNG tanker would not pass through the harbor until late the following week. Truth was, three days later a tanker passed. While he was telling everyone that would listen there was no DB, Bruce Chaney of the N.H. Emergency services was calling up their radiological detection team in the event Massachusetts needed help. I like Tom but I wish I could trust him. I dont now!

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By adamg - Jan 28, 2005, 3:44 PM
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Tom Menino is not God. Neither is Mitt Romney. Faced with what seems to be a ludicrous story, they both erred on the side of caution. As Romney himself said, he was flying back to Massachusetts to show the public there was nothing to worry about - but just, maybe, if the story turned out to be true, he wanted to be at home to help coordinate, well, whatever.

So some police started carrying Geiger counters. You talk like that was some big secret. It was in the papers. Good for Tom Menino and the police department for trying to protect us on the off-off-off-chance the story was true. It's not like they shut the city down and conducted house-to-house searches - or started mass arrests of Chinese people.

Yes, there is the potential for crying-wolf syndrome, but given that this story originated out of the FBI, to do absolutely nothing would also be irresponsible. Think back to Sept. 10, 2001. If somebody had told you there was a good chance that within a day, terrorists would hijack FOUR planes all at once and fly them into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon (and try for either the Capitol or the White House), would you have believed them, or just laughed at the rantings of a paranoid nut job?

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By Miki - Jan 28, 2005, 4:03 PM
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From what I read and heard, the whole thing was completely fabricated.
Even the FBI said so.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By AAstrojet - Jan 28, 2005, 4:13 PM
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Wrong information is far worse then no information. Tom said there was no truth to the Dirty Bomb theory while at the very same time New Hampshire was preparing to send assistence. What possessed him to mention the LNG tanker movement late next week...when in fact it left three days later....??? HE DIDN'T HAVE HIS FACTS RIGHT and if there is a next crisis, I want someone making decisions based on HARD FACTS. Oh and Mitt's not without sin either. He flew back to Lexington to sleep. The crisis was in Boston....!!Sly

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By adamg - Jan 28, 2005, 4:33 PM
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Tom said there was no truth to the Dirty Bomb theory while at the very same time New Hampshire was preparing to send assistence


Yeah, so? "Better safe than sorry." I didn't think there was really a dirty bomb, either, but I'm still glad the city was at least taking some minimal steps just on the off-off-chance there really was.



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Oh and Mitt's not without sin either. He flew back to Lexington to sleep.

Oh, my, my, my. Yes, indeedy, Mr. Glass House, wrong information is far worse than no information. You might want to check out where Mitt Romney lives (hint: It's not Lexington). I can no longer trust anything you say.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By AAstrojet - Jan 28, 2005, 4:51 PM
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Belmont, Lexington...a mistake! One of the frailties of being human! The fabricated story was no mistake! They (Gov, AG and Mayor) had the facts mid-morning and spent the rest of the day wrestling with a fable to feed the masses and which of them would be foolish enough to deliver it.
Tom lost! It is what it is and it will come back and bite him at election time!

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By adamg - Jan 28, 2005, 4:57 PM
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They (Gov, AG and Mayor) had the facts mid-morning and spent the rest of the day wrestling with a fable to feed the masses and which of them would be foolish enough to deliver it.


You may recall their initial inclination was to say nothing, because they didn't think there was anything to the story, but they were forced into saying *something* when news outlets began reporting the story.


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It is what it is and it will come back and bite him at election time!

Out of idle curiosity: Are you a Boston resident?

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Fred Sennott - Jan 28, 2005, 9:30 PM
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If a dirty Bomb was detonated in Boston do you think Mitt would be any safer in Belmont.If there was an easterly wind it would carry the radioactivity right over his house.If a gasoline tank truck was blown up on Rte 2 near his house it probably would take it out as well as half of Belmont and Arlington as well.How many of those pass up Rte 2 every day of the week?
Trust in God and sin not.Don't blame me I'm like Sparky I voted for Sarah to.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By eeka - Jan 28, 2005, 9:31 PM
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Fred, are you blowing up gas tankers again?

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Fred Sennott - Jan 28, 2005, 9:39 PM
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Why not.There are more of them than there are LNG tankers and nobody is protecting them.
Trust in God and sin not.Don't blame me I'm like Sparky I voted for Sarah to.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Mike in TX - Jan 28, 2005, 11:26 PM
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Fred, if you're going to try to pass yourself off as a terrorist, we're going to have to see some credentials. Tongue
Sigs are overrated.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By AAstrojet - Jan 29, 2005, 9:53 AM
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If a dirty Bomb was detonated in Boston do you think Mitt would be any safer in Belmont.

A dirty bomb is not a nuclear bomb. Contamination covers a small area! It does create havoc with the uninformed.

As for my residence..I've lived in Boston for over 60 years.

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By so - Jan 29, 2005, 12:07 PM
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...what a great-n-powerful government agency...Homeland Security didn't even know:
"Ridge said he was not included in the conversation during which FBI agents briefed local authorities about the tip."
http://wbz1030.com/massnews/MA--Ridge-BogusThreat-gn/resources_news_html

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By Spatch - Jan 29, 2005, 3:39 PM
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Replying to fix a rogue italic tag.

EDIT: Hooray it worked! The dirty italic bomb threat has been defused!

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??

By triquetra - Jan 30, 2005, 3:16 PM
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Fred's not a terrorist; he's just a Revolutionary.
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Luceo non uro

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Re: Dirty Bomb downtown??
By Frankie - Jan 30, 2005, 5:17 PM
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One person's revolutionary is another person's .......

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